Roll Forming, Relationships & the Relentless Pursuit of Service with Scott McMeekan

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Curt Anderson  00:00

All right, hey guys, welcome. We’re talking about stop being the best kept secret with our dear friend. So, Damon, how are you, man? How’s it going today?

Damon Pistulka  00:08

Doing great, Curt. Ready to roll. Let’s get going.

Curt Anderson  00:11

Let’s rock and roll. So, hey, we’ve got a dear friend. We’ve got Scott Mckeekin online here today, the CEO, the extraordinaire at Ferret Inc. Rule forming company in Elkhart, Indiana. And Damon, what do you know about Elkhart, Indiana? Do you know pop quiz, little trivia? Do you know anything? It’s the capital of the world of something. Do you have any idea what it’s the capital of?

Damon Pistulka  00:32

No.

Curt Anderson  00:33

RV man, it’s the RV capital, and it’s great hating. And you got to be a Notre Dame fan if you if you live near Elkhart, right? So you love

Scott McMeekan  00:40

love them or hate them,

Curt Anderson  00:41

love them or hate them, right? So Scott, welcome. How are you, my friend? Thank

Scott McMeekan  00:45

you. I’m doing very well. Thanks. I’m excited to chat with you guys today.

Curt Anderson  00:49

Awesome. And so we’ve got a lot. Scott has a ton going on. I just had a privilege, pleasure of getting a tour of his facility. He and his son are actually speaking at FabTech. So depending on when you catch this live, it’s coming up in a couple weeks in Las Vegas. So, Scott, Las Vegas, man, like that’s a tough. That was a tough call, right?

Scott McMeekan  01:08

Yeah, it was pretty easy when they asked us to speak. But no, we’re we’re very excited. I’m I’m really excited to to bring my son into this, and I’ve been member at FMA for 25 years. So to be able to give back is is fun.

Curt Anderson  01:22

That’s phenomenal. So and we’re gonna we’re gonna hit that again, guys. Do us a favor, connect with Scott on LinkedIn. Check out the website, Faret. We’re pulling up the website. Scott, I have a quick question. I know we’ve got a lot to cover. And Damon, I’m going old school, dude. I’m going old school. I’m dying to know this the answer to this question, Scott. When you’re a little guy growing up, who was your hero? Who did you look up to? Who did you admire? Who did you just worship? Who was your hero when you’re a little guy growing up?

Scott McMeekan  01:50

Sure. In all honesty, and this may sound cliche, but it was it was my dad. Nice. You know, he he was running the previous business that he had before we started Ferret, and you know, I just marveled at walking around the shop and realizing that wow, my dad’s in charge of this, you know, and and wow, what does this mean? So yeah,

Damon Pistulka  02:12

very cool,

Curt Anderson  02:12

awesome. And Dad’s name, please,

Scott McMeekan  02:14

George, George McGeorge.

Curt Anderson  02:16

All right, George, and so you know what, and I knew I knew George was an entrepreneur, so I want to pull that together. Let’s slide into Ferret. So in one minute, I’m going to pull up the website. But for folks out there, share with who is Ferret. How do you make the world a better place?

Scott McMeekan  02:30

Sure. So Ferret is a custom roll form company, and roll forming, if you’re not familiar with it, is a cold forming process. We take coils of various metals: steel, stainless, brass, aluminum, and put it through. Oftentimes, a punch press to achieve holes, slots, even different types of forming that you can do in a punch press, and then we roll form it. So continuously at speed, you start with one station, and you may start with a flat strip, and you wind up with a U channel, a C channel, or, or something completely asymmetrical. And you can do forming, or I’m sorry, you can put holes or features in after forming, and then we cut it to length. So that the idea is, when the part is cut, it’s completely done. There’s no secondary process you need to do, and it’s ready to ship to the customer.

Curt Anderson  03:23

Let’s take a look here. I’m going to pull up the website and let’s take a gander. And I’ll tell you, if if if you have not been, you know, for our friends, you know, most of our friends here are manufacturing folks, and there’s nothing better than like getting a tour of a manufacturer. Scott, you have state of the art equipment. You have an incredible staff. Just share a little bit of like what we’re seeing in this video here.

Scott McMeekan  03:46

Yeah, so a lot of what you see in this video is for our solar line. We’re actually making parts that solar panels rest on, and for the alternative energy market. And it’s a great example of what we can do while the steel’s in the flat before you form it. You see, there’s an inkjet printer that we actually impart a part number where the part gets delivered to because these are 1000 acre sites, and so the truck drivers roll in. They need to know, okay, what quadrant am I in, so that you don’t move around too much. But yeah, I mean that’s a perfect example when we can run parts anywhere from, you know, a foot long to 38 feet long with all the holes and slots that that are necessary. Yeah,

Curt Anderson  04:30

and I’ll tell you, you’ve you’ve got an amazing team, but man, you guys produce a lot of product for a lean, mean, tight team that you have. Let’s go into. There’s a lot of things that I want to cover, but let’s dive into. You have an incredible mission statement that you’ve come up with, and so I don’t want to steal your thunder. Please share with us what is the mission at Ferret Inc. And please share like where did this come from?

Scott McMeekan  04:57

Yeah, so the the mission statement. The mantra, the tagline is actually the relentless pursuit of service, and actually this came to me while I was doing some vision planning for the future. Our previous was called “We Form Value, which was great and served for a time. But the relentless pursuit of service was really born out of everywhere I look. It seems as if service is lacking, and I say to our our team members all the time: Yes, technically we’re a manufacturer, but we’re really in the service business because there’s anybody, any number of people that could punch and form metal. How do we do it better? How do we how do we perform the best and and provide this service? The thing I love about the the the tagline is, what do you sir? What do you mean by service, and who are you serving? And so, obviously, without customers, we don’t have a business. So we serve our customers, and how do we do that? By responsiveness, by quality, by price, all the things, right? But I want to be able to do it better than anybody else in the industry. Secondarily, who are you serving? We serve our team members. I want to create an environment where we spend an inordinate amount of time together at work, right? And the last thing I want to do is have somebody dread getting up in the morning and having to come do their job. So, how do I create that environment where we’re respecting, encouraging, and challenging our team members so that when they work during the day and they go home at night, they actually feel like they made a difference and that they have pride in what they did. So that’s really what the the tagline means to me.

Curt Anderson  06:33

Nice, awesome. And let’s go here. So two things I want to talk about customers, but before we go there, you mentioned your team, and we, and I’ve met a number of your teammates, and I’ve asked that question about you know how do they feel about the relentless pursuit of service? What’s your perspective? Like, what do you think that means bringing that to the team, the cohesion, the camaraderie? Like, what what’s your perspective as a leader of the company?

Scott McMeekan  06:57

So what I what I hoped would happen, and what I have found is happening, is that it basically galvanizes all of us to one goal, and that goal is how do we serve the customer, and then tangentially how do we serve our each each of us our team members. But it really really focuses on that customer experience, and that that’s what it is. What does it mean to have the ferret experience? Right from the moment someone contacts us for a quote, to the moment that we have a finished part and and they actually get to see and touch what we’ve made for them, I want that experience to be first class. I I want it to be different and better than anything else they’ve done before. So that’s what really drives us. And I was hoping that people would would gather around that idea and and and believe in it and and take it take hold of it and they have

Curt Anderson  07:45

yeah and what’s great Damon was when you know again I had the privilege of getting a tour there and so you could eat off the floor I mean it’s a massive massive facility and they are expanding they’re putting on a significant expansion on top of it but the cool thing is like when you walk in, you sense it, you feel it. There’s a, you know, Scott, as you’ve gotten to know me, I’m a big reader, so I’m always referencing books. There’s a phenomenal, incredible business book called Unreasonable Hospitality. Unreasonable Hospitality, if you guys are familiar with it, and I’ll tell you, like, and I and I don’t, I don’t say this lightly. When as I’ve gotten to know you, Beth, the team at Ferret and on your facility, I feel like you know. In the the whole concept of the book was this gentleman was in New York City with a restaurant trying to get you know four star Michelin you know all the things, and so he’s you know you’re naturally in that business. It doesn’t always come natural for a manufacturer, but I feel like you guys are eating, drinking, breathing, sleeping that unreasonable hospitality. Where did you get the mindset of like, hey, we’re not a manufacturer, like we’re in a service business, we’re in a people business, we’re in a relationship building. Like, where did that come from?

Scott McMeekan  08:49

Well, I think it was born out of really a lot of the experience that I had going to a vendor and not not getting what I what I was really wanting. So you know, as I had a couple of those experiences in my mind, I was thinking, what, what do I want? And then it turned it around and said, okay, well, what do I want to provide? I want to provide what I expect, and I have high expectations. So that’s how really it was born out. And it’s taken time. It’s taken a number of years to where we actually fine tuned and honed that to to what it is now. But I I will stand it up against anybody else in the in the industry.

Curt Anderson  09:24

Well, I love it. It’s an evolution, not a revolution, right? Evolution, not a revolution. Hey, Damon, we’ve got a couple comments here. So how about how about this guy? What do we got here?

Damon Pistulka  09:32

Hey, Harry, how you doing? Bravo, Scott. Let your service mission ring loud and clear to any business vertical. I agree.

Curt Anderson  09:41

Let’s take a look. What’s this? What comment we got here, David? We

Damon Pistulka  09:43

got Ahmad’s got a comment here. Great topic in custom roll forming, where tight tolerances matter so much. How do you balance precision with fast turnaround for customers? Would love to hear your take. That’s a

Scott McMeekan  09:56

great question. I appreciate it, Ahmad. Um, wait, I. Showed this to to Curt when he was in before. Really, what happens is our our closed loop measuring system. So, what if you need to hold tight tolerances? Typically, you need to slow down, right? So, in what we use is a closed loop measuring system. You’re actually capturing speed and length data real time. It’s giving that feedback to the controller, and so we can run something that maybe someone would run at 50 feet a minute. We can run it 150 feet a minute and still hold say plus or minus 10, plus or minus 15,000. That’s the key to be able to do that fast turnaround for our customers.

Damon Pistulka  10:36

Yeah, that speed, being able to go accurately at speed,

Scott McMeekan  10:41

correct.

Damon Pistulka  10:42

Yeah, very cool.

Curt Anderson  10:44

I love it. And then you know, I’m going to cite in here, Scott. On top of that, if you if you don’t mind me bringing this up, you do a phenomenal job measuring your labor. Yes. Can you talk a little bit about go cover that if you would please?

Scott McMeekan  10:56

Sure. So we have everybody has a work traveler, right? That goes out to the floor that the worker takes. The difference is with ours, we actually have a we have a scanning setup at each at each work center. The worker will scan in the work order, produce the parts, log whether they had any bad parts or scrap, scan back out, and so that that’s how we track to the penny our labor dollars for every single job, and I know for a fact I’ve talked to any number of other people in in our industry, whether they’re smaller than us or bigger than us, and and I don’t know of anybody else that’s doing it. What that allows us to do then is be able to cost accurately. I’m not going to you know one of the things I talk about some of my core values are honesty and integrity. The last thing I’m going to do is be able to say to you, we’re going to be able to do it for X, and then it turns out that it’s Y, or I’m coming back with a price increase. Right? I know based on historical data exactly what our labor costs are going to be. Material is what material is. So you know that’s how we really capture that data and have it, and can provide value to our customer for it. Yeah,

Damon Pistulka  12:04

yeah, it’s so incredible how data helps you to service the customer better.

Scott McMeekan  12:12

Correct,

Damon Pistulka  12:13

because you’ve experienced in other places where you get an estimate, and then all you know get down the roadways. These it’s now it’s this because right whatever kind of

Scott McMeekan  12:23

a bait and switch not that you’re meaning to but it’s just you know unless yeah you just have to know yeah unless you actually know to the penny what it is yeah it’s an estimate

Curt Anderson  12:31

yeah it’s it’s the accidental you know the the the oops you know you meant to be honest but we fell on the other side you know yeah um tons of great topic, guys! Thanks for joining us. We’re here with our buddy Scott Farret Inc. Check out the website. Connect with Scott on LinkedIn. Scott, I want to give a shout out to our dear friend Dwight. And as a matter of fact, since I have it pulled up, I’m going to I’m going to give I’m going to pull up a little shot of a video. But as I pull up our friend Dwight, let me see if I get it right here, here we go. Hey, can you explain who’s this handsome gentleman and what are we seeing here? What’s going on in this video here? Sure. So this

Scott McMeekan  13:08

is Dwight Stinson. We recently purchased Stinson Metalworks. It’s a it was a small machine CNC shop, and the reason we did it was to really vertically integrate a big portion of what

Scott McMeekan  13:21

we what we experience lead times on, and that is tooling. So we don’t do a lot of tooling in house or haven’t up to this point, and so

Speaker 1  13:28

we

Scott McMeekan  13:28

rely on our tooling vendors based on what they give us as far as lead times and such to then go to our customer and say, okay, it’s going to take 12 weeks or 14 weeks or whatever. Given the massive amount of onshoring, reshoring, and just this manufacturing boom in the U.S. and the decline of machinists and people in tool and die, lead times are really, really extending out. And so, we saw this as an opportunity to bring this in house, so we can control the lead times, control the precision, control the cost to our customers, or whether we’re building tools in house, and so when we approached Dwight, he has you know 2530, years of experience in building these tight tolerance tools and such. So it was a perfect example for where we can fold that into again the ferret experience to be able to provide to our customers tooling on time and at a good price,

Curt Anderson  14:23

man. The fair experience. So let’s. I’m going to cover a few things, and let’s go back to the you know the labor measurement that you’re doing. Totally transparent, like you said. Like you know, like nobody wins when somebody makes that mistake. Like, oops, I I misquoted it. Right. Then on top of it, like you were saying, like, hey, our lead times are challenging, or we’re relying on another third party, and you know whatever act of God, they’re mismanaged. Something occurred that now now it impacts you. So now with this relentless pursuit of service, like you’re just tackling all these things. Going like, okay, if I were my own customer, what don’t I like? Like how can I? Solve and solve these problems, and I feel like you’re going right down the list. What anything that you want to add to that?

Scott McMeekan  15:06

Yeah, no, you’re exactly right, Curt. And so that’s been my mantra, and you know it fits in with the relentless pursuit of service. But how do I continue to provide that value to our customer? And obviously, this is a big part of it in the future, you know, I’ve got plans to maybe put in a slitter, start controlling. You know, bringing that part of it in as part of our addition plans is looking at the possibility of being able to control that because there’s another lead time, right, and another cost profit center that we could take out. So I’m always trying to think of something else that could could help vertically integrate us, right? Yeah,

Curt Anderson  15:42

absolutely, Damon. Your what are your thoughts as you’re hearing this? What’s your

Damon Pistulka  15:45

feeling? No, it’s just good stuff to be able to, like you said, the tooling’s a huge thing, and and you mentioned the new tooling, but also if there’s a major problem with the tooling that something happens in production, you know, God forbid, tool gets wrecked, piece gets wrecked of the tooling, you can remake it now. You don’t have to wait for somebody else to do it. Yes, and you can do

Scott McMeekan  16:05

it in house. Yeah, you’re right. Do it in house.

Damon Pistulka  16:07

Yeah,

Scott McMeekan  16:07

it’s a great point, Damon.

Damon Pistulka  16:09

Yeah, in the molding facilities I used to run, we always had to have a tooling department that could make anything that we were running if we needed to, or one of them in within our facilities could do it.

Scott McMeekan  16:18

Yeah, and it’s just a matter of time for that. Something will happen.

Damon Pistulka  16:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s

Curt Anderson  16:23

it’s it’s not it’s not if it’s when. So okay, our topic today we’re covering role forming relationships and the relentless pursuit of of service. Now one thing, and I and I do love that. I hadn’t made that connection before until I walked in your door. That unreasonable hospitality, and now you’ve just kind of labeled it in a way. There’s a friend of yours named is it Murray? What’s when I say Murray? What comes what comes to mind, Scott? Who’s this Murray guy?

Scott McMeekan  16:48

Yeah, so Murray Mentor is a company that we’re partnering with, and they’re and it’s basically an agentic AI system that you can use for imparting, transferring wisdom from all of our experienced role formers, our maintenance people, everything else, to get it into one central place, and then allow that to be imparted to our younger workers and and people that are training and coming on board. We’re dealing with something in this industry, and really across all the industries, called the silver tsunami. People that look like me, you know, 60 plus, are getting ready to retire, and it actually are retiring. And so, how that lack of being able to transfer that incredible knowledge is hurting people badly. So, what we have in this Murray mentor is this incredible app that allows us to go on the floor and pick up your phone and fire it up and say, “Hey, Murray, I’m getting ready to change over line 20 to from this job to this job. And it’s not only just recording what you’re saying; it’s interacting with really okay. Well, last time you did this, what are you doing differently this time? And what about this? Or what did the did the metal change? Did the properties change? What about your cutoff diet? Do you have to service it? It’s incredible, and so we’re really embarking on this journey to get that knowledge into our own database. And it’s siloed, it’s protected, so that you know my competitors can’t dip dip their toe in and get it. But yeah, it’s it’s huge for us, Curt. Thanks for bringing that up.

Curt Anderson  18:20

Yeah, no, this is phenomenal, and if I’m not mistaken, I think this and this segues ties into your FabTech conversation, right?

Scott McMeekan  18:28

Yeah, so in what we’re going to be talking about at FabTech is how do you attract and retain newer workers in manufacturing, and a big part of what we’re seeing is younger workforce is very tech savvy, right? I mean, they they every aspect from the time they’re born, they’re they’re tech savvy, so this is a way to actually incorporate that into their job, their work, and actually make it more challenging. And what you might think is people would be afraid of that challenge. Now, the younger worker is actually leaning hard into that challenge. They want to know why and how that can work, and they want to learn quicker. This is how it’s. This is how we’re doing it.

Damon Pistulka  19:06

Yeah, that’s so cool.

Curt Anderson  19:08

Yeah, yeah, great, great stuff. So again, coming up at FabTech and any of our friends that are going to be there, definitely catch Scott. They’ve got a great panel. He and his son Thomas are going to be on on board there. Scott, well, I know you’re super, man, dude. You’re doing so like you walk in there. It’s like, how on earth are they doing everything? I have a couple more questions, but you have a family affair going on. How talk about it from a from a leadership standpoint? Being in business as long as you have, what what’s like nurturing this family business combined with you know your staff? Like talk about that a little bit from that sure

Scott McMeekan  19:40

aspect. Sure, so it’s unique, right? Family businesses. You’ve heard the old cliche that second generation typically fails. I forget what the rate is, but it’s a lot. And third generation is unheard of, right? So, yeah, I took I took this tack. I basically told my kids that you go off and find your find your. Place in the world. Do what you want to do. If for some reason it brings you back this way, then that’s great. Because I wanted it to be organic, right? And it and it’s happening. My son went to work for a big OEM here in town, and after he had kind of gone through the big corporate experience, he came back and said, “You know what, Dad? I’d be interested. So now he’s our assistant GM and and quality manager doing a great job, and my daughter Beth did the same thing. She went out and you know used her her degree from Purdue as well in photography and related media with a minor in business for marketing, and came back to to the area and and I actually reached out to her and said, “Hey, could you do a little side project? You know, and it’s bloomed into what she’s doing for us now, and she’s phenomenal. Curt, you work with her all the time. Yeah. But I think the big thing is trying to make sure that you’re not pushing it and letting it happen organically. And if they’re interested and they want to do it, that’s a whole different ball game than hey, you’re born into this. You’re expected to do it. You know, step up and let’s go. And that’s really been the difference in in my experience.

Curt Anderson  21:09

Wow, it’s incredibly inspiring. It’s a huge honor to you know. I work closely with Beth, and she’s just salt of the earth, just a wonderful human being. As a girl dad, you know, Damon and I are both girl dads. Just you’ve done a phenomenal job. She’s just delighted, and I tell you, it is so inspiring and so admirable what you’ve done with the business, where you’ve taken it, and and and like you said, you know, like we’re all similar, same age. You know, when we get to our age, you’re like, hey, where do I like, dude? It’s like you’re like 30, man. Like you’re like gas on the pedal. You’re like you’re throwing gas at a fire right now, and like you are going after it.

Scott McMeekan  21:45

Thank you. Yeah, I I definitely feel passionate about it.

Curt Anderson  21:48

Yeah, that’s awesome, Damon. We got another great comment here from our friend Harry. Yeah, Harry, thanks.

Damon Pistulka  21:52

Yeah, thanks for dropping it there, Harry Scott. I love learning from leaders like you of business I’m not involved in because I always learn applicable lessons to my own business that spark new ideas, are there businesses different than yours that you have applied lessons from them to your own manufacturing business?

Curt Anderson  22:11

That’s a great

Scott McMeekan  22:12

question. Thanks, Harry. Yeah, you. This is kind of ironic, Curt. You talked about the book. I’m actually an investor in a restaurant, and the the restaurant experience that he is striving to do is literally that three star Michelin experience. And when I look at something like that, and I think to myself, okay, you’re just you’re serving a meal. Yeah, it’s it’s a big deal, and I want to have a good meal. But when you take it to the level that they do, and Curt, it’s exactly what the author is from the book you you referenced. How do you make something like that so so different, so differentiated from any other experience that you come back right? And that’s exactly what I’m trying to do. So you might think it’s a little odd restaurant business manufacturing, but really, there’s similarities.

Curt Anderson  23:02

You know. I was just on site with a manufacturer the day, you know, old school, you know, boom, you know, baby boomer, just you know, done and started the business 40 years ago, and I dropped the unreasonable hospitality, and it’s a different mindset for manufacturer because you’re like, you know, so in many cases, so impersonal. Send me the purchase order, I send it to you. There’s no conversation. Wouldn’t know what you looked like if I was standing next to you and taking this unreasonable hospitality mindset, the relentless pursuit of service is just off the charts and it’s paying off. We’re gonna start winding down, Scott. I’ve got a couple more questions for you. Sure. For I talked about you know business you know from a family business standpoint, what do you feel like? You know, let let me change yours. I’m going to go here. What’s the you’ve had a number of mentors? We talk about Vistage. Yet your dad. I’m sure there’s been a lot of people that have had like a big imprint on Scott through your entrepreneurial career. What’s the best business advice that you’ve ever received?

Scott McMeekan  23:59

Honestly, that also came from my dad and and actually my stepdad as well. I’m blessed to have two dads, and it’s honesty, integrity, and work harder than anybody else. I mean, it’s it’s really not rocket science. It really isn’t. It’s it’s been it’s been around forever, right? Love it. Be honest. You know, do what you say you’re going to do and do it to the best of your ability.

Curt Anderson  24:22

Yeah, yeah, I love it. Drop the mic right there, Damon. That’s awesome advice, Scott. I want to take it one step further, and then we’ll start. We’ll wrap up. A lot. There’s a lot of people that are incredibly honest, wonderful, great human beings, givers, but they just, you know, that entrepreneur thing. They just, man, I just can’t get successful. What would you say either to them or like what’s been a key to your success? Now, again, I know you’re a very humble man, and you might be uncomfortable with that question. But for a friend out there that’s an entrepreneur, maybe just starting out, maybe like your kid’s age, or maybe a seasoned entrepreneur, you know, I’m asking, right? I’m same age as you. I’m asking, what what do you feel is a key to success? To take that that great advice, integrity, honesty, sincerity. How do we take that next level to success?

Scott McMeekan  25:07

So I feel like the the difference really is is saying this phrase: “I don’t know what I don’t know, and then surrounding yourself with people that do. I think entrepreneurs tend to have big egos, and I I I am a Leo, so I have an ego. But I think you have to be honest with yourself. If you’re going to be successful, you have to be honest. Again, there’s that word again, but with yourself. And I don’t know everything, and it’s okay to say that. And then, how do I surround myself with people that do know, that can help? And if you do that, and then you apply the other aspects of what we talked about-hard work, integrity-I I find it hard to believe you won’t be successful.

Damon Pistulka  25:49

Yeah, yeah. There you go.

Curt Anderson  25:50

Drop the mic, man. That’s just wonderful words of wisdom, Damon. As we wrap up, your word. What are your thoughts from our conversation with Scott today?

Damon Pistulka  25:58

Just thanks for sharing today, Scott. It was so great learning a bit more about Ferret, what you do, your relentless pursuit of service, relentless pursuit of service. It’s so great to see that in in your company, and and it would be interesting to see other companies evolve into this.

Scott McMeekan  26:19

Couldn’t agree more. Thank you, Damon.

Speaker 2  26:20

Yeah.

Curt Anderson  26:21

So, guys, do us a favor. Connect with Scott on LinkedIn. Check out their website. They’re they’re going crazy on social. They’ve got a bunch of a whole new video series. If you feel not, if you feel since you feel this was a masterclass just in life, he’s a phenomenal father and grandfather. I met his grandkids. Just great family man. But just kind of bringing that high level of integrity to a business, Scott is just truly a privilege being in your circle. Parting thoughts, words of wisdom that you want to share as we close out today.

Scott McMeekan  26:48

Well, I mean, in top of everything else we’ve talked about, find a way to love and live life, enjoy it, because we’re only we’re only here for one one trip, right? So you got to find joy in life, and so I would just encourage people to find that

Curt Anderson  27:04

excellent, phenomenal words of wisdom, Scott. And I would be remiss. Let’s give a shout out to our friends at the Purdue MEP. Yes, Gene and Ditra want to give a shout out. They do. Scott, just my last your thoughts of the folks at Purdue MEP. What do you? What are your thoughts for this? You know,

Scott McMeekan  27:20

Gene just did a phenomenal job. I was I was really blessed and thankful to be part of his final cohort. But he went out and found three different markets that we could go into, produce an 80-page report, all free for me. And being a boiler maker myself, I was pretty happy to partner with them. But yeah, the whole team there, Dietra, everybody I spoke with and worked with did a great job.

Speaker 3  27:43

Yep, good

Curt Anderson  27:44

stuff for producer. All right, guys, and again, hey, if you’re going to be in Las Vegas on I think the 22nd of October, stop in in FabTech and check out Scott and be in Northern Indiana. Scott, check out Ferret. It is an impressive facility. So, Scott, hang out with us for one second. I’m going to close this out. Guys, have a great, amazing rest of your day, and we will catch you next time. Thanks, Curt. Thanks, everyone. Thank you, Damon. Thank you, everybody.